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The first instance of hostile relations
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#1
Recently a small amount of property in the possession of the Dark Brotherhood has been interfered with. The property in question was a small 2x3 cave with 2 torches planned to be expanded into a small supply cache. The cave was in the vicinity of the Union of German Socialist Republics, but well outside of any distinguishable borders. I received this message from the leader of their group after the damage had been done:

"Hello Baivo.

As I already wrote in /mail I found that little cave, bunker or however to call it by accident (I actually just needed some cobble for the road leading to my cactus farm in the desert). As it is first on the territory of the Union, secondly very, VERY, close to Berlin and thirdly being built wihtout my permission, I destroyed it. Just by chance Peppy was around before that and told me that you had mined away these blocks 3 hours ago at that point. From now on I'll regularly control the area around Berlin with the cave finder in dynmap. If you should again try to build up one of your hiding points on the territory of the Union, this will be seen as a military offense and will result in a defensive declaration of war. At that point I have and I am going to have various treaties with other factions.

The Union of German Socialist Republics is a peaceful faction and saying that I expect anybody to act peacefully in and close to it. I don't like wars but I will defend myself."



As it states in his message, the build was apparently in his lands, although at the time, as i stated, his boundaries were indistinguishable. I attempted to reply with a message, but apparently, Firefighter has private messaging disabled for whatever reason. THe message in question was as follows: 

"Greetings Fire. Before writing any further, i would like to make it clear that the little cave in question was in no way meant to cause any unrest and was in no way meant to be a "hiding point". I would like to explain that little cave further. Being a guild specializing in assassination, i would understand your concern, however i would like everyone to understand that i do not go around assaulting random people. Unless i have an official and approved contract for work, i am just as peaceful and complacent as you are. The cave itself is one of a few i have built. At the current time, none of these have any worth or meaning, however, with the lack of a HQ, my faction will have a variety of sanctuaries and supply points from within which i will deposit various goods and utilities. These are t be used for safety and convenience. I was under the understanding your faction was a peaceful and wealthy faction, specializing in agriculture and trade. I thought the local vicinity to said faction would be a viable habitation for one of these areas. The reason being that such a sanctuary could hold and transfer items of value to trade with your faction when necessary, and also serve as a living area for my faction members that have business with you're faction or the surrounding region. 


I accept fault for not alerting you to the existence of the little cave, however, seeing as it was such a small and uninhabited area, i thought it unnecessary. Given your response to the situation, i apologize, and with all due respect, i will attempt to maintain abstinence from your faction and it's lands. 

Kind regards and sincere apologies, 
Baivo"


The message above is as polite as i could have made it. However i am here to declare a state of neutrality from this point forward in relations to the Union of German Socialist Republics. With regards to other factions, unless a violent or ill meant action is taken towards myself, my faction members/faction property, i will consider you an ally and treat you as such. The lack of diplomatic response, and the violent destruction of a piece of property i had created has rendered Firefighter and the Union of German Socialist Republics a Neutral faction in relation to my own. What this means is i will no longer accept any contracts or perform mercenary work on behalf of the Union of German Socialist Republics, and all contracts or mercenary acts carried out upon the faction on behalf of my own will concur a 50% discount in terms of fees and charges. I will also consider them an enemy in times of war, where all allies are considered neutral in times of war. 

Any questions in regards to the issue or the implications can be voiced to myself privately. The events that have already come to occur are not in question, and i do not require or request the response on behalf of Firefighter or the Union of German Socialist Republics.

#2
That's what someone who is secretly making hiding places would say Wink

#3
Although you did not request any response from my side the request is independent of the action.

It was within marked bordes. All land borders of the Union are marked with torches and all isles being territory of the union are amrked with torches as well. It is impossible to reach the (unmarked) mainland coast without having seen marked isles. Therefore it was my right and duty to destroy anything that makes anyone capable of attacking any of my citizens. Also the borders have been published in the "New factions" thread.

To the purpose of this cave: If you would have informed me of your intentions of building a storage and recreation building, I would have given you a place to build a house with similar state to an embassy under the condition you will not attack anyone or anything in the Union. Even if you would have started a house I would have contacted you about the purpose. But I can't see any other purpose of building inside a mountain than hiding the building, again hiding a building on the territory of another nation can only be interpreted as preparation for a war act, shall it be for a contract or out of own interest.

Under the condition you will not again set or destroy any block anywhere in the Union without my or any of the Union's officials (which are still to be declared) permission, I accept your apology.

Also I would like you to know that the existence of your "organisation" can only be recognised as a faction as long as international laws and customs are obeyed. This also includes not to ignore borders of other nations.

Firefighter0701

Apples are healthy. Still you could choke yourself and die. However, apples are not classified as dangerous. Why should vaccinations be?
Vaccinations save lives.
#4
And me having private messaging disabled? Just some hours ago I sent and recieved private messages, so I expect the error to be on your side. Of course I will check that I did not accidentally change settings.

Firefighter0701

Apples are healthy. Still you could choke yourself and die. However, apples are not classified as dangerous. Why should vaccinations be?
Vaccinations save lives.
#5
(09-03-2015, 06:31 PM)Firefighter Wrote:  Although you did not request any response from my side the request is independent of the action.

It was within marked bordes. All land borders of the Union are marked with torches and all isles being territory of the union are amrked with torches as well. It is impossible to reach the (unmarked) mainland coast without having seen marked isles. Therefore it was my right and duty to destroy anything that makes anyone capable of attacking any of my citizens. Also the borders have been published in the "New factions" thread.

To the purpose of this cave: If you would have informed me of your intentions of building a storage and recreation building, I would have given you a place to build a house with similar state to an embassy under the condition you will not attack anyone or anything in the Union. Even if you would have started a house I would have contacted you about the purpose. But I can't see any other purpose of building inside a mountain than hiding the building, again hiding a building on the territory of another nation can only be interpreted as preparation for a war act, shall it be for a contract or out of own interest.

Under the condition you will not again set or destroy any block anywhere in the Union without my or any of the Union's officials (which are still to be declared) permission, I accept your apology.

Also I would like you to know that the existence of your "organisation" can only be recognised as a faction as long as international laws and customs are obeyed. This also includes not to ignore borders of other nations.

Thematically Assassins do not have embassies or houses, I'll go out on a limb and presume the hidden cave motif was to follow the theme of an assassin's brotherhood which one must seek out to strike a deal. So. Again (and I'm finding you're a little defensive a lot of the time when interacting with people online) Don't jump the gun on someone and assume everything they do that you don't understand is a preparation for war or an act of malice. Just chill. Chill ma bra you had Peppy there you knew who placed the blocks, You could have messaged Baivo and talked it out without going full wrecking ball.

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#6
I am especially defensive if people want to kill others for contracts and then suddenly hide something near my CAPITAL.

Firefighter0701

Apples are healthy. Still you could choke yourself and die. However, apples are not classified as dangerous. Why should vaccinations be?
Vaccinations save lives.
#7
Fire, do us a favor, you got a rough time on when the 'hole' was made? Like X hours ago? Merely curious about something.

#8
Huh? What do you mean?

Firefighter0701

Apples are healthy. Still you could choke yourself and die. However, apples are not classified as dangerous. Why should vaccinations be?
Vaccinations save lives.
#9
(11-03-2015, 12:33 AM)Firefighter Wrote:  Huh? What do you mean?

He means, do you have a rough estimate time of when the hole was made. You mentioned in your PM that Peppy had checked the time for you and you knew when Baivo had made the hole so CWP is asking when that would have been.

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#10
I believe it was sunday, probably around 7-8pm for me, so around 58-62 hours ago.

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